Smoking or nonsmoking?

KeiannaRae from downtown - July 08, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Joey, you are nuts, dude. Plexiglass? Oy vey! LOL!

JoeyFingers from Downtown - July 08, 2009 at 12:34 PM

A logical solution here it so build a Plexiglas wall down the center of all bars & clubs. One side is smoking, the other smoke free.That way you could see what your friends on the other side are doing but do not have to endure that which you dread. It might make random bar hook-ups a little more challenging... but if you're good... I mean really good.. you will still make dreams come true. Let's get building, Indy!

Drinky_McGee from Indianapolis - July 08, 2009 at 12:01 PM

I've noticed that, sometimes, when I go to a bar, I come back home smelling like whores. Is there any way we can ban them, too?

adrianne from Carmel - July 08, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I have meetings in bars all the time for Metromix, and it is awful when I have to come back to the office in the afternoon smelling like smoke for the remainder of the day. Most of the time these bars are closed too, so I can't imagine what they are like when people are actually in there!! If Indy had different open contatiner laws where alcohol could be taken outside, then there could be the argument that non-smokers can just take there drinks outside to get fresh air. But, that not being the case, why is it hard to go outside to light up instead forcing it on other patrons? Yes you can say, "then don't go to that bar" well why do I have to give up going to that bar? Why can't the smokers go to a different bar if they want one they can smoke at? Awwww....the never-ending saga of the smoke free topic. :)

Lesalina from Downtown Indianapolis - July 07, 2009 at 7:37 PM

I'm not 100% sure what either SFI or Drinky are talking about however, Keianna I feel for you and I hope that its banned inside public establishments 100% one day, hopefully soon.

KeiannaRae from downtown - July 07, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I'm an asthmatic... And while I LOVE to go to events, I find myself having to think twice about places that allow smoking. I don't have anything against smoking, but I think it should be contained in an area where people who don't want to puff, aren't forced to do so. Can't we get to a happy medium?

Drinky_McGee from Indianapolis - July 06, 2009 at 4:58 PM

The point of the Penn and Teller show (and something they've never reneged on) is that anti-smoking types distorted and exaggerated the existing data in an attempt to make their point, thus rendering their conclusions highly questionable. They never said that secondhand smoke wasn't harmful. They merely pointed out that you lot of have used some very whacky and unscientific extrapolations to engage in fearmongering to bolster your case. And I'm not going to seek out a doctor for you. Unlike some people, I have a life, a life that usually involves minding my own business.

smokefreeindy from downtown - July 06, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Glad I now know how to spell reneged. I would say the 2006 Surgeon General's Report is probably the best piece of scientific information out there on the health consequences of secondhand smoke. And, if you can find me a doctor who states that secondhand smoke ISN'T bad for your health, and a real licensed MD doctor, I'll buy you a drink. Of course, in a smoke free establishment.

Drinky_McGee from Indianapolis - July 06, 2009 at 11:11 AM

So, Penn and Teller allegedly reneged, but Penn and Teller aren't people we should go to for information. Ok. I would also suggest that we shouldn't look for scientific accuracy among lobbying organizations who set their political agenda first and look for evidence later.

smokefreeindy from downtown - July 06, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Actually, Penn and Teller have re-negged on that several years ago. They were doing a Q&A session and someone in the audience asked specifically about that. And, if you are getting your scientific data from Penn and Teller...probably not the best source. Even our largest opponents aren't denying anymore that secondhand smoke is dangerous. Fine if you want to use the choice or freedom argument, but don't say it's not dangerous.

Drinky_McGee from Indianapolis - July 03, 2009 at 9:16 AM

When it comes to the dangers of secondhand smoke, I would highly suggest that folks look up the episode of Penn and Teller's Bullpoop that deals with the issue.